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Sign up for the Nature Briefing newsletter — what matters in science, free to your inbox daily. Advanced search. Skip to main content Thank you for visiting nature. I think it's very important that you mention cost of living in your post. I just want to post from the perspective of a person who has lived in poverty, and has been lucky enough to get into a graduate program in a location where I'm paid enough to support my family because of a good mix of low cost-of-living and competitive stipend.
For me, it's not as much about the research as it is about pay. I don't ever want to have to worry again about where to get food for my family or if we will be evicted next month. I don't ever want to be in a place again where I have gotten rid of all modern conveniences cell phone, car, internet, etc and still am not getting enough for basics food, shelter.
So I love science, but I will find a way to love what I do no matter where I am, as long as I am paid enough to live a good life. This is something many people can't understand, perhaps because they've never had to deal with starvation or homelessness. Wouldn't it be nice to just say "I really like this PI and the projects in zir lab!
Competitive pay including an adjustment for cost of living is key to that. Again, thanks for asking a lot of questions! Just want to remind folks that there are non-post-docs in many labs who also have wages coming from the same grant-funded pot of money.
Because we'd like a stable job we can live with, not just a short-term gig to use as a stepping stone to the next level. I've seen PIs forced into really shitty "who do I have to screw over" choices by well intentioned mandatory pay raises.
Frankly, I think there are numerous systemic problems, but unrealistic expectations about both productivity and cheapness are big factors Labs need more money to pay people actually doing the work which certainly includes post-docs most places, but is far from limited to just them. Sorry, Arjun. I really love your posts and insightful comments, but I cannot agree with your plea for stopping public postdoc pay shaming.
It is very important to have a conversation about this sensitive, yet highly overlooked issue and public shaming is the only way which can kickstart this discussion. That said, I wholeheartedly agree with you that folks should stop bragging about this on Twitter. However, in all fairness most people who do so Boston, NYC types and their offsprings , live in a very superficial world where hype and publicity for their half baked results, and a relentless pursuit for branding matters much more to them than actually caring about science or scientists at all levels.
I agree with your overall theme that this is a complicated issue and one size fits all discussion on Twitter, will not provide any answers. But from my experience at least this creates some awareness about this issue. And yes Casey Greene did not brag about the number on Twitter, he just said that he advocates a higher amount and follows it in his lab. Like you, I do not know the answer to this complicated question. As an ardent believer in free market, I think that markets will adjust themselves in the long run assuming that the government does not create a one sized regulation for all.
I do not think that all postdocs should be paid the same amount, however everyone should get a basic living wage. A star postdoc should be paid better in a more efficient marketplace for postdocs. I want to thank you again for this post even though I do not agree with your central premise on stopping public pay shaming. Great post and discussion. A couple of points I would add: 1. While many of us are trying to find ways to pay postdocs more, there are still plenty of faculty who object on philosophical grounds.
They see postdoc salary concerns as a red flag and prefer not to hire a scientist who would be so base as to seek a higher salary.
This is the "science is a calling, not a job" crowd that still doesn't get the whole texting thing. The more these folks hear about above-NIH scale salaries gasp! We need to make science not only a viable career, but an attractive one. There are too many options for smart, creative, and ambitious people with technical talent these days outside of academic science. We obviously can't offer the same salaries as industry, but we need to stop demanding that pursuing a career in academic science must be a financial burden.
I think this applies not only to postdocs, but graduate students and lab techs, too. So while it's fine to assert opinions on a postdoc might "deserve" in compensation, it is important to note that this is ultimately a labor market in which we are becoming non-competitive. Thanks for the comments! I certainly think it's worth discussing openly that there are above-NIH scale salaries, and the extent to which this perhaps forces the hands of those who are acting inhumanely, that's great.
I do think that publicly talking about how much more you yourself pay your postdocs as opposed to more generally comes across weirdly—even if the intent is not to brag, it's clear that many interpret it that way. But if that's what it takes to start the discussion, so be it. I think the labor market analogy is a difficult one to fully wrap my head around.
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